Originally posted 2017-01-25 06:38:55.
There are two distinct types of ‘transwoman’ — Transsexuals and transvestic Autogynephiles. These are people born male who present as women. Other than that, the two types have no similarity to each other. However, this has been deliberately confused by individuals in one of these types, to advantage themselves at the expense of the other, and also to harm women. This has caused widespread misunderstanding. We need a field guide. Read on!
So, Two Types — Transsexuals and transvestic Autogynephiles.
The first type of Male to Feminine representations are homosexual transsexuals (HSTS). They tend to be: shorter than average for their ethnicity; more lightly built for their height; tend to strong neoteny or retention of juvenile features, which make them look female; are extremely feminine in manners, gait, etc, but not in a forced, excessive or theatrical manner — they are just naturally girly; as children they are sex-atypical and identify as girls; they prefer girl clothing, toys and games; as women can be very beautiful; they respond extremely well to low doses of feminising hormones.
Significantly, people in this type are strongly attracted to men from childhood and are NEVER primarily attracted to women, nor transwomen of any type.
Scientifically this type is known as ‘homosexual transsexual’ or ‘Blanchard HSTS’. I use the term ‘transsexual’ because they are completely psycho-sexually inverted in terms of their sexual desires, social roles and preferred appearance and, importantly, they are what we think a transsexual is like. They represent a complete form of Congenital Sexual Inversion, caused by anomalies in hormone delivery in utero.
They always appear young, either in teens or early twenties with very occasional outliers up to age thirty. As a general rule, such a transsexual, if she reaches the age of twenty-four without transitioning, will attempt to live as a homosexual male; it follows that significant numbers of such males are actually incomplete transsexuals.
There is strong evidence, from extensive MRI testing, to suggest that these individuals have brains shifted towards female-typical morphology in certain parameters (though causation is not confirmed.)
Individuals in the other type could not be more different. Although there are several profiles, the classic one, first described by Ray Blanchard, shows the core characteristics of all. These people are average in height, weight and build for men of their ethnicity; show no tendency to neoteny and are masculine in features and appearance; have no natural femininity in manners, gait etc, and have severe difficulties in learning these. As children they are sex-typical, though they may report episodes of arousal at women’s clothing. They respond poorly to hormones.
MRI testing shows that transvestic Autogynephiles. have male-typical brains. They often attempt to falsely adduce the MRI evidence as suggesting that they are neurologically feminised, but this is a blatant lie and a deliberate erasure of transsexuals, who actually do.
They are NEVER primarily attracted to men, although they may become so when socialising in a ‘feminine’ role. This is called ‘pseudo-bisexualism’ because they are not really bisexual at all; their desire is demonstrate how ‘feminine’ they are by attracting male lovers (though there is evidence that these lovers are themselves of the same type.) However, many do learn to enjoy the sensations provided by anal penetration and may even make this their main or sole sexual practice.
Transvestic Autogynephiles may predate on transsexuals, who may, in turn, be willing to accept their advances for material reward. However, their primary sexual attraction is to women, and specifically, to themselves as women. (This is called an Erotic Target Location Error or ETLE.)
Autogynephilia could be described as an extreme form of narcissistic emasculation fetish and it may also be associated with a masochistic fetish.
These individuals are known to science as ‘non-homosexual’. Blanchard’s description of them as Autogynephilic, however, is both taxonomically accurate and more descriptive (the word means ‘a man’s propensity to be sexually aroused by the thought or image of himself as a woman’.) Since autogynephilia can appear in both non-crossdressing and crossdressing forms, I call autogynephiles who do so ‘transvestic Autogynephiles.’
Transvestic Autogynephiles always appear when older than transsexuals, although these ages vary with culture. In the West this is typically in middle age, with median in Blanchard’s sample being over forty. However in the Asian profile, they usually appear much younger, often in the age range fourteen to twenty. This was supported by a recent study in Cambodia. This reduction in age is becoming more apparent in Western individuals too, suggesting that social intolerance of their fetish has tended to make them suppress or hide it. Covert transvestic Autogynephiles exist in Asia too, for example the shadowy ‘silahis’ of the Philippines.
As a result of beginning hormones early, Asian profile transvestic Autogynephiles may become strikingly attractive, but this is much less the case in the West. Furthermore, even amongst young transitioning transvestic Autogynephiles, the skeletal differences from transsexuals are marked: they are taller, bigger, heavier and less feminine, (allowing for exceptions caused by early hormone usage.) Further, while they may become pseudo-bisexual, their relations with men are never comparable to transsexuals’ or women’s.
Such individuals, if they retain a hetero-normative male desire for women, may claim that they are ‘lesbian’ or ‘trans-lesbian’ in order to sexually predate on real lesbian women. This is a travesty; One requires to have been born with a vagina to be a lesbian. Transvestic Autogynephiles have the same lust as any other man, as regards women.
A relationship between a man and a transsexual is hardly different from one between a man and a woman, save for the genitalia (if pre-op.) Transsexuals very rarely are prepared to use their genitalia to penetrate and men who seek this will be disappointed, unless money is involved. Relationships with transvestic Autogynephiles are at best, for a man, bizarre.
Even with Asian profile transvestite autogynephiles, one can never lose the unsettling feeling that one is in bed with a person who appears to be an attractive woman, but is in every other way a man. (As one correspondent put it, they are ‘more like “gay” relationships, because they are men’.) In contrast, a transsexual’s physical, emotional and social responses are so feminine that it is almost impossible to credit that she was actually born male.
While transvestic Autogynephiles may work as prostitutes, especially in Asia (as do transsexuals), attempts at serious relationships with them are probably best left to non-transvestic Autogynephilic men.
Genital Reconstruction Surgery
If a transsexual has Genital Reconstruction Surgery (GRS) to form a cosmetic vagina, she does so in order to make it easier for her to find and keep male partners and to be able to perform fully as a woman in all social situations. Her concern is being ‘outed’ as trans, particularly in the latter, where a bikini party at the beach could spell the end of years of carefully constructed identity as a woman. Further, she will use her cosmetic vagina exactly as a woman would, in sex with men. Her desire to have GRS is the result of factors outside herself.
Transvestic Autogynephiles who undergo GRS have completely different objectives and most of these devolve partly to self-affirmation and partly to androphobia, to which they are prone. In the former, the individual seeks to be able to look in a mirror and see himself as ‘a real woman’. In the latter — and the two may act in tandem — the subject comes to so loathe his male genitalia that its removal becomes an obsession.
(Note: recent evidence, in 2023, suggests that far greater caution is needed in the provision of GRS. I think it is ill-advised except in a tiny number of cases.)
From the above it should be clear that a transsexual’s sexual self-image and everything else about her is focussed outside herself, in the society within which she operates, as a woman. Her actions are about enabling her to live as a woman, to attract suitable partners and to reduce her vulnerability in daily life as much as possible — in which she is very much like any other woman. A transvestic Autogynephile’s actions are all, invariably, focussed on himself and his fetish with ‘appearing to be’ a woman. Thus his condition is one of extreme narcissism associated with, in the classic Western profile at least, a sociopathic desire to bully everyone around him into accepting him as a woman. Only a tiny proportion of transvestic Autogynephiles can successfully ‘pass’ as women, while most male-to-feminine transsexuals can do it effortlessly.
As has been often said, ‘if you have to keep telling everyone how feminine you are, you probably aren’t very.’ The transvestic Autogynephile’s obsession with ‘gender pronouns’, naming conventions and so on are perhaps the strongest indicator of how completely lacking in femininity these individuals actually are. Compare this to the actions of transsexuals, who are routinely taken to be women by everyone around them and who simply live their lives as such. About the last thing one would do is to attract attention to that fact that she is transsexual by making a fuss about pronouns. (If you look like a bricklayer in fishnets, however…)
The transvestic Autogynephile’s obsession is the result of years of clandestine cross-dressing and ‘bingeing’ on clothes purchases, solo masturbation while cross dressed and self-pleasuring sexual orgies with other Autogynephiles. These phases are followed by ‘purges’ in which the subject throws out all his accessories and enters a period of masturbatory abstention. This fails and the cycle begins again, but with greater intensity. The increasing shame and self-loathing caused become focussed on the genitalia, which the subject begins to identify as the cause of this trauma.
(After all, his curious lifestyle, as a covert transvestic Autogynephile, entirely exists to maximise his orgasmic pleasure.) Sooner or later, the idea forms that the torment might ease if only the penis were to be removed. At this point he joins the queue for GRS.
Unfortunately, and largely because they are men, transvestic Autogynephiles are far more strident than transsexuals and in the West appear to be a majority (though they might not be). Even in Asia, the most vocal ‘trans advocates’ are invariably transvestic Autogynephiles. In the West, this stridency causes the needs and even the existence of transsexuals to be erased and often overlooked by the mainstream media and public; the results are somewhat different in Asia, where both transsexuals and transvestic Autogynephiles are seen as ‘gay’. Again in the West, the damage is exacerbated by transvestic Autogynephiles’ attempts to suppress the word ‘transsexual’ and replace it with the meaningless and unscientific term ‘transgender.’
They are doing this deliberately, to colonise and erase transsexual identities.
Transsexuals live in the real world; they are usually well grounded and pragmatic. Tending to be honest, or at least, no more dishonest than anyone else in their culture, they have realistic life-expectations and goals that they can achieve. Transvestic Autogynephiles, on the other hand, live in a fantasy world where a 6’4″ ageing sports jock in a wig with a bra full of socks is as winsome as a seventeen-year old girl. The sheer impossibility of reconciling such wishful thinking with reality, together with the fact that they spend much of their lives inhabiting internal sexual fantasies in which they are their own lovers, makes them into Walter Mitty fantasists and pathological liars. (This is less the case in Asia, to be fair; but the issue is only one of degree.)
Here are some points to remember about transsexuals and transvestic Autogynephiles:
There are two completely different types of people born male who wish to appear as women, MtF transsexuals and transvestic Autogynephiles;
Neither type are actually women (they’re transwomen duuh);
It follows that neither type are ‘real’ women;
They certainly are not ‘born women’ or they wouldn’t be trans;
Transsexuals can indeed be naturally feminine-bodied, but transvestic Autogynephiles are men in more-or less sophisticated woman suits;
Transsexuals can be very beautiful, but Western profile transvestic Autogynephiles almost never are and struggle to appear presentable;
Even Asian profile transvestic Autogynephiles, who may be very attractive, are easy to distinguish from transsexuals simply because of their much bigger physical size;
Transsexuals invariably are attracted to men physically, exactly as women are;
Transvestic Autogynephiles never are, although they may exhibit pseudo-bisexualism;
In socially completing as a woman, a transsexual brings her social role and gender appearance into line with her underlying sexual desire for men;
In transitioning, transvestic Autogynephiles are cosplaying what they imagine a woman would do and want to look like. MtF transsexuals can’t help but be feminine.
If you’re sitting next to a transsexual on a train, the chances are you won’t know, but if you’re sitting next to a transvestic Autogynephile you definitely will;
‘Male privilege’ doesn’t exist, but if it did, transsexuals would never have it, while transvestic Autogynephiles would, on account of them being men;
All transwomen are by definition male, that is, they have XY chromosomes (even after GRS, it’s cosmetic only). Intersex people are something else altogether, so please do not conflate them;
Having said that, transsexuals typically have no difficulty passing naturally and living their lives as women while transvestic Autogynephiles have to threaten everyone with violence so they will call them what they want to be called but manifestly are not — women.
Transsexuals have been using women’s spaces for decades and NOBODY FUCKING WELL NOTICED until a bunch of grown men in frocks came along to toss off in women’s toilets, flounce about like idiots and generally bugger it up;
No transsexual I have ever met has denied any of the above: reality denial is an Autogynephilic preoccupation.