Theryn Meyer & Rachel Levine: AGP extremes

One of the most remarkable things about Autogynephilia is its extreme range. Theryn Meyer and Rachel Levine seem very different, but they are not. However, once the condition is understood, one reason for this becomes clear. Prior to 1980, the concept of the Sexual Invert, the petite, highly feminine male who was exclusively attracted to men and wished to play the recipient role in sex, was well documented. They were never interested in members of the same sex and identified strongly with feminine models, often presenting as girls or at least, in as unmasculine a manner as they could get away with. This last type, in adulthood, was called 'homosexual transsexual' or HSTS, by Kurt Freund in 1973. Freund did not himself originate the concept behind the term, since it was discussed in detail by Magnus Hirschfeld, Havelock Ellis and Harry Benjamin, amongst many others. So this is a well-documented phenomenon that has been thoroughly studied for over a hundred years. The problem wa
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6 Replies to “Theryn Meyer & Rachel Levine: AGP extremes”

  1. Btw, this Theryn Meyer wrote once: “At face value, I was allowed to be myself; a little gay boy, and eventually a transgender woman.”
    (https://www.hillsborough.gop/why_lgbt_people_should_be_conservative)

    Apparently according to her Instagram she has a fiance, a man (there are pictures of them).

    How do you know she is attracted to women?

    I know there is a lot of jokes about her and Contrapoints, but they just seem to be friends. (They work together)

    1. You’re either a troll or you didn’t read the article. I specifically said that Meyer was ‘anything but liberal’. Further, her publicly known relationship is with Callisia de Sousa, who is a woman. She would hardly be involved with a woman were she not gynephilic and therefore, not HSTS. There are no pictures of men on her Instagram account. Perhaps you need to do some fact checking before posting.

      As to ‘little gay boy’, I respect Meyer but they all say that. AGPs, even the nice ones, constantly try to acquire validation from appearing to be more like HSTS, who are actually, after all, the true transsexuals. Having said that, I think there are too many accounts of AGPs exhibiting pre-pubertal autogynephilic behaviours for such claims to be rejected out of hand, but there are many possible explanations for these. What they never include is any kind of homosexual attraction or crushes on boys and these are absolutely central to any identification of HSTS. Meyer has never made any such claim and I think her use of the word ‘gay’ here is more in the sense of ‘feminine or girly’.

      Sorry, no coconut.

      1. I never said anything about her being a liberal or a conservative, just pointing out the “gay boy” comment…(edited)

        1. I’ve wasted more time on this than I should have and all the evidence – such that there is — says that Meyer is AGP.

  2. I do wonder why so many AGPs in South East Asia are Bi or go with men. I think a lot of this is to do with “cisnormative” (sigh I actually said it) norms in South East Asia. The west has increasingly become nihilistic and ANYTHING GOES… but in South East Asia they are tolerant but expect a type of conformity to Hetro Norms so men go with women and vice versa.

    I was a bit surprised the Meyer was AGP and with a female but compared to many True Trans in the West you see the masculine features in Meyer though she does try her darnest to assimilate into the Hetro (feminine female)…

    1. HI Rick Yes I am sure you are right. Kabaklaan and all the equivalents are quite clear: boys go with girls and girls go with boys. Now it is true that there are many exceptions to this but in fact nearly all AGPs in se Asia are pseudo-bisexual. However, I don’t think we should as much see this as a function of Asian culture but of the West, where homophobia is off the scale. AGPs publicly state that being fucked would be the most affirming thing they could do but they can’t, because it would be ‘gay’ This is one reason why in the West, AGPs are such fucked up puppies. Their gender dysphoria is extreme and it is made worse by relations with women.

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